Out-the-Door Price: The Number Dealers Don't Want You to Calculate
The sticker says $35,000. The dealer quotes $35,000. You agree to buy at $35,000. Then you see the final paperwork: $39,847.
What happened? You got hit with the out-the-door price—the number that actually matters, and the one dealers avoid discussing until the last possible moment.
What’s Actually in the Price
The out-the-door (OTD) price includes everything you’ll pay to drive away:
- Vehicle price (MSRP or negotiated)
- Sales tax (varies by state, 0-10%+)
- Documentation fee (dealer-set, $0-$1,000)
- Title and registration (state-set fees)
- Destination charge (already in MSRP, but watch for add-ons)
- Dealer add-ons (often negotiable or removable)
That $35,000 car in a 7% sales tax state with typical fees becomes $38,000+ before you sign.
The Out-the-Door Formula
OTD = (Vehicle Price - Trade-in Value) × (1 + Tax Rate) + Doc Fee + Title + Registration + Adds
Most states tax on the difference between purchase price and trade-in value. A few tax the full amount regardless of trade.
Know Before You Go
Calculate your expected out-the-door price before stepping into the dealership.
Calculate OTD Price →Hidden Fees to Watch For
Legitimate fees (can’t avoid):
- Sales tax (state-mandated)
- Title fee ($15-150 depending on state)
- Registration ($50-500 depending on state and vehicle)
- Destination charge (if not already in MSRP)
Negotiable or removable fees:
- Documentation fee: Legal in most states but capped in some. Ranges from $0 to $999. Always negotiate.
- Dealer prep: They’re preparing the car for sale regardless. Don’t pay extra.
- Nitrogen tire fill: Regular air is fine. Say no.
- VIN etching: $5 DIY kit, not a $300 dealer charge. Say no.
- Fabric protection: $10 can of Scotchgard. Say no.
- Paint protection film: Sometimes legit, often overpriced. Get quotes elsewhere.
Dealer add-ons (often mandatory in hot markets):
- Appearance packages
- “Market adjustment” (pure profit)
- Dealer-installed accessories
In a buyer’s market, refuse add-ons. In a seller’s market, they may be non-negotiable.
State-by-State Differences
Tax rates vary dramatically:
| State | Sales Tax | Notes |
|---|---|---|
| Oregon | 0% | No sales tax |
| Montana | 0% | No sales tax |
| Delaware | 0% | Document fee only |
| California | 7.25%+ | Plus local taxes |
| Texas | 6.25% | Plus local taxes |
| Tennessee | 7%+ | One of the highest |
Some states also have separate vehicle taxes, registration fees based on vehicle value, or annual property taxes on vehicles.
Real Example: $35,000 Car
Let’s calculate for Texas (6.25% tax, $80 title, $75 registration, $150 doc fee):
Base price: $35,000
Sales tax: $35,000 × 0.0625 = $2,187.50
Doc fee: $150
Title: $80
Registration: $75
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Total OTD: $37,492.50
That’s $2,492 more than the sticker price—over 7% added cost.
Now add dealer add-ons (nitrogen tires $199, paint protection $595, “market adjustment” $2,000):
New total: $40,286.50
You went from $35,000 advertised to $40,286 actual. This happens constantly.
How Trade-Ins Affect Taxes
In most states, trading in a vehicle reduces your taxable amount:
Without trade:
- $35,000 price × 6.25% = $2,187.50 tax
With $10,000 trade:
- ($35,000 - $10,000) × 6.25% = $1,562.50 tax
- Tax savings: $625
This is why dealers push trades—it’s a legitimate benefit. But make sure you’re getting fair value for the trade, not just tax savings.
Negotiating OTD, Not Sticker
Smart buyers negotiate on out-the-door price, not vehicle price. Here’s why:
Dealer trick: Accept your $35,000 offer, then add $2,000 in fees Result: You’re paying $37,000 while thinking you “got” $35,000
Better approach: “I want to pay $37,000 out the door.” Result: They figure out how to make the numbers work within your total
When you negotiate OTD, fees become their problem, not yours.
Red Flags in the Finance Office
The F&I (Finance and Insurance) office is where dealers make huge profits. Watch for:
- Extended warranty pressure: Often overpriced through dealers
- GAP insurance: Can often be bought cheaper elsewhere
- Payment focus: They’ll shift to “just $50 more per month” to hide costs
- Rate markups: Dealers can add 1-2% to your loan rate and pocket the difference
Get pre-approved through your bank or credit union before visiting. You’ll know what rate you qualify for and can compare.
The Email Strategy
Don’t negotiate in person if you can avoid it. Email multiple dealers:
“I’m looking for a [specific car]. What is your out-the-door price with all taxes, fees, and no add-ons? I’m contacting several dealers and will buy from whoever gives me the best OTD price.”
You’ll get real numbers to compare, and they know you’re shopping. This bypasses the in-person negotiation games.
What to Bring to the Dealer
- OTD calculation for reference
- Pre-approval letter from your bank
- Trade-in quotes from Carmax/Carvana (if trading)
- Competing dealer offers (in writing)
- Willingness to walk away
Know your numbers before you go, and you won’t get surprised by the out-the-door price.